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Начать можно с любой суммы которую не жалко будет потерять в будущем, ведь первые деньги можно легко потерять без определенного опыта и знаний, а чтобы за ними не жалеть в будущем лучше вложить минимальную сумму, например десяти долларов хватит чтобы освоиться, а дальше уже смотрите сами.

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Ну если ты новичок конечно же тебе сначала нужно понять с чем ты имеешь дело. Я бы начал с 1000 рублей и старался бы совсем не рисковать и торговать аккуратно. Ну или же вообще подождать аирдроп и подниматся с него, а потом закончить трейдингом.

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7 hours ago, metlin07 said:

Было дело торговал на биткоин\доллар и доллар\биткоин. На первой паре ушел в убыток, по сколько биткоин в то время был не стабилен, а вот на долларе поднял 30% на мелких ставках. Может повезло, а может нет. 

Не совсем понятно вернее совсем не понятно. Одна и таже пара и как можно уити в минус и заработать 30% одновременно? Нужно в чём то одном считать баланс. Завели 100$ на биржу так с них и ведите отсчёт. Какими бы активами не торговали, прикиньте раз в месяц допустим, если их продать то сколько это будет в баксах и можно делать вывод заработали или нет!


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Всем привет. Конечно заработок зависит от вашего времени, навыков. Лучше заводить сумму, которую вам не жалко потерять. К примеру, можете закинуть 20-30к, а потом ждите, получиться у вас или нет. Ставить лучше тогда, когда у вас есть план либо стратегия

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С любой) Абсолютно) Главное начать пробовать. На начальном этапе сумма депозита не столь важна, важно ваше желание практиковаться и анализировать происходящее) Вот когда пройдет этот период, тогда вы уже сами будете знать ответ на этот вопрос)

 

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3 minutes ago, Shenberger06 said:

C 50-100 долларов это и не много и не мало и с этой суммы вполне можно подняться и приумножить капитал. Но самое главное это знать меру!

Для начала 100долларов будет оптимальный размер баланса. Но вот на сколько вам удастся правильно им распорядится, чтобы торги были в плюс это будет прямиком зависеть от вас.

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54 minutes ago, KOTOMAH said:

Половину из прочитанного не понял, да и к тому же видно, что пишет человек, лет 10-15. Если бы ты хоть немножко понимал, что и как тут, то я думаю таких вопрос бы не возникло. Ну а так отвечу на вопрос про талк - нет, он не будет стоить выше 100 долларов. Ибо вы сами себе представляете, как он с 40 копеек дорастет до 6500 рублей за штуку? Но если это такое уж и случиться, то я думаю все, кто хранил на этот день талки, станут "арабскими шейхами"

Толк в плане смысл))))) Вообще можно начать с любой суммы хоть с 10, хоть с 100$, это уже дело каждого. Я лично начинал на бирже с 70$, и спокойно себя чувствовал. Знаю что кто то может и с 10$ спокойно заработать те же 100$, главное голова на плечах и знания в голове.

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Первым делом, нужно задаться самому себе вопросом, а сколько тебе не жалко будет потерять, а так порекомендовал бы от 50$ не меньше заходить,но только если опыта с лихвой  поднабрали, а так и с 10$, можно начать, чтоб осознать саму суть трейдинга.

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Я считаю,что абсолютно с любой суммы можно начинать.Наверное даже лучше будет результат,если на маленьких суммах сможете поднять банк,то потом на более крупном капитале,вообще хорошо заработаете.

Я например вообще начала с нуля,заработала на написании постов и дропах,и теперь на этих деньгах пытаюсь торговать в плюс

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1 час назад, borecnikita said:

Тысяч от 10 я думаю нормально будет, меньше если то подольше придётся ждать, и вливать не все сразу в одно а в разные монеты лучше инвестировать 

Человек так то спросил о торговле,  в инвестиционном секторе с 10 кой делать нечего ) , торговать можно начать и со 100 баксов , можно на опционах попробовать,  либо маржа рискнуть 

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Не важно какая сумма, для начала тебе нужно понять как работает этот рынок, но лучше сделай маленький депозит, так как ты его скорее всего сольешь.

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Та в принципе можно начать торговать с любой суммы,но нужно помнить тем более если вы новичок,что  лучше всего начинать с небольших сумм, поскольку изначально нужно быть готовым к тому что потери в любом случае будут. А если вы потеряете небольшую сумму, то это будет незначительная потеря. Я бы начал торговать где-то со 100 долларов и не более.

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Так как форум этот является партнером биржи йобит, то надо полагать, что большинство будет начинать торговать на этой биржи. В таком случае сумму, с которой Вы начнете активно торговать, можно просто самому заработать, написав необходимое количество положительных постов на этом форуме. После 100 сообщений у Вас будут скапливаться на балансе и талки и сатоши и Вы сможете спокойно оттачивать свое мастерство трейдера, не вкладывая на первых порах ни копейки собственных денег.

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Новичку рекомендовано начинать с 10$, но если эта десятка последняя в твоём кармане, то лучше не трейдить на последние деньги.

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Ну как мне известно нету точной суммы с которой нужно начинать, но чем больше тем лучше.

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50-100 долларов вполне хватит что бы начать, хотя я начинал с 20 баксов, но с такой сумму особо много заработать очень тяжело в ближайшее время, надо много времени, что бы разогнать баланс. 

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3 hours ago, Qone said:

Так как форум этот является партнером биржи йобит, то надо полагать, что большинство будет начинать торговать на этой биржи. В таком случае сумму, с которой Вы начнете активно торговать, можно просто самому заработать, написав необходимое количество положительных постов на этом форуме. После 100 сообщений у Вас будут скапливаться на балансе и талки и сатоши и Вы сможете спокойно оттачивать свое мастерство трейдера, не вкладывая на первых порах ни копейки собственных денег.

Все верно, разложили все по полочкам. Возможно стоило для новичков стоило добавить что есть инвест планы, куда можно положить талк. что б просто на балансе не лежал) И посты стоит не только писать, но и читать.) Быть в теме так сказать!


                                   

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19 hours ago, metlin07 said:

Здравствуйте дорогие форумчане и знатоки. Скажите пожалуйста, с какой суммы вы начинали торговать? Мне вот интересно приблизительно, будет ли толк от 100 долларов, или с такой суммой не стоит заходит на биржу. И какие пары лучше? Было дело торговал на биткоин\доллар и доллар\биткоин. На первой паре ушел в убыток, по сколько биткоин в то время был не стабилен, а вот на долларе поднял 30% на мелких ставках. Может повезло, а может нет. 

Я начинала с 10 тысяч и благополучно их слила. Но я изначально вкладывала столько денег, сколько не обидно было потерять, так что думайте сами.

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Доброго времени суток)Лично мое мнение, что для того, чтобы начать торговать не нужно иметь на балансе огромную сумму. Я вот начала с небольшой суммы, которую накопила с помощью данного форума ( за написание статьи) и мне этого хватило, для начала развития. Всех с наступающим и Удачи)

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Твой депозит будет влиять только на твой заработок. Чем он больше - значит и  зарабатывать ты будешь больше. Можно подняться как и с 10 долларов, так и со 100. Тут главное упорство и знание в сфере трейдинга 

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20 hours ago, metlin07 said:

Здравствуйте дорогие форумчане и знатоки. Скажите пожалуйста, с какой суммы вы начинали торговать? Мне вот интересно приблизительно, будет ли толк от 100 долларов, или с такой суммой не стоит заходит на биржу. И какие пары лучше? Было дело торговал на биткоин\доллар и доллар\биткоин. На первой паре ушел в убыток, по сколько биткоин в то время был не стабилен, а вот на долларе поднял 30% на мелких ставках. Может повезло, а может нет. 

Конечно будет толк, эта сумма хороша для входа в инвестиции и для начала трейдинга на крипте. Многие начинают даже с сумм поменьше и у них все хорошо получается. И с каждым разом при выходе в профит вы будете заработать все больше, так как чем больше сумма тем больше заработок

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Давай посмотрим здраво на происходящее на данный момент, сколько тебе нужно будет играть со 100$ что бы именно заработать ? Именно очень долго, но ты ведь хочешь именно заработать, тогда бери что то около 200$ и полученный выигрыш вкладывай в банк и по истечению времени понимая что теперь доход тебя устраивает начинай только выводить деньги.

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можно начать с любой суммы. конечно чем больше тем и лучше. так как процент прибыли будет больше на много. лучше всего начать с 10000р я так считаю.

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Я считаю что можно начать 15 тысяч рублей суммы, но чем больше она будет тем  лучше. так как вы будете получать больший процент от сделки.

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Announcing this event, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak stated that he is proud of the "achievements of his government [Conservatives]". "Economic stability is the foundation of any success," he added, noting that the UK economy is still growing and inflation has returned to normal levels.   Despite Sunak's assurances, in May 2024, the monitoring company Ipsos reported that 84% of the population are "dissatisfied with how the government is managing the country". Current election forecasts based on public opinion polls show that 21.3% may vote for the Conservatives, 41.9% for their opponents, the Labour Party, and the rest for other parties.   It must be noted that the government of Rishi Sunak has several real achievements. On 19 June, data on consumer inflation (CPI) was published, and overall, the picture turned out to be quite good. The consumer price index month-on-month remained at the previous level of 0.3%, lower than the forecasted 0.4%. Year-on-year, the CPI decreased from 2.3% to 2.0%, reaching the Bank of England's (BoE) target for the first time since October 2021. The core index (Core CPI), which excludes volatile components such as food and energy prices, also showed a significant decrease from 3.9% to 3.5% year-on-year.   According to the report from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), presenting the final data on 28 June for Q1 2024, the UK economy grew by 0.7%, higher than the previous value and forecast of 0.6%. Year-on-year, real growth was 0.3%, exceeding the previous value and expectation of 0.2%. This was the best dynamic since Q4 2021.   If the UK parliamentary elections on 04 July and the inflation report on 17 July do not bring significant surprises, the markets predict that the BoE will start lowering rates at its nearest meeting on 01 August. According to ING bank strategists, "we still forecast that the Bank of England will start lowering rates in August and will begin to signal this in its speeches as soon as the general elections on 04 July are over". In their opinion, the likelihood of rate cuts by the Bank of England is much higher than those by the Fed, which will put pressure on the pound sterling. TDS company analysts, on the other hand, give the following forecast: "We believe a rate cut of 15 b.p. is expected in August, and about 50 b.p. in total for 2024". In several other market participant forecasts, it is also mentioned that by November, the reduction could be around 30 b.p.   GBP/USD ended the past five-day period exactly where it started – at 1.2644. The analyst forecast ahead of the parliamentary elections is unequivocal – 100% side with the dollar and expect the British currency to weaken. Regarding technical analysis on D1, there is also a clear advantage on the dollar's side. Trend indicators are in favour of the dollar at 65% to 35% red to green. Oscillators are 100% pointing south, with 20% signalling the pair is oversold. In case of further decline, the pair's levels and support zones are 1.2610-1.2620, 1.2540, 1.2445-1.2465, 1.2405, 1.2300-1.2330. In case of the pair's growth, it will meet resistance at levels 1.2675, 1.2700, 1.2740-1.2760, 1.2800-1.2820, 1.2860-1.2895, 1.2965-1.2995, 1.3040, and 1.3130-1.3140.   As for the events of the upcoming week, all investor attention is focused on the elections on 04 July. The next important event, as mentioned, will be the publication of the fresh inflation report in the United Kingdom on 17 July.   USD/JPY: Another Peak Conquered   Last week, 75% of analysts expecting new currency interventions voted for the USD/JPY pair's retreat south, while the remaining 25% pointed north. The minority, as is often the case with the Japanese currency, turned out to be right: no interventions occurred, and the pair reached another peak – 161.28.   Frankly, there's nothing to comment on here – everything has been discussed dozens and hundreds of times. The problem of the yen's weakening lies in the ultra-loose monetary policy of the Bank of Japan (BoJ). And as long as it does not decisively turn towards tightening, the national currency will continue to lose its positions. Of course, for a while, the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank can support its exchange rate with currency interventions. But spending billions and billions on something that disappears like ripples on water after a few days – is there any point in that? Can this be called monetary policy?   If inflation falls in major competing countries, in Japan, it rises. According to data published on Friday, 28 June, the Consumer Price Index (CPI) in Tokyo for the year ending in June rose to 2.3% compared to 2.2% for the previous period. The core CPI inflation (excluding volatile food prices) also increased to 2.1% year-on-year, which is higher than both the forecast of 2.0% and the previous value of 1.9%. Another core CPI index for Tokyo (excluding food and energy prices) decreased in June to 1.8% year-on-year compared to the previous value of 2.2%.   Of course, these are not jumps that warrant sounding a loud alarm – all indicators are "hovering" around the target 2.0%. This allows Japanese officials to pause, without changing the vector of their monetary policy, and to limit themselves to verbal "interventions". Thus, Japan's Finance Minister Shunichi Suzuki once again stated that he is "deeply concerned about excessive and unilateral movements in the Forex market" and expressed hope that "trust in the Japanese currency is maintained". Suzuki's colleague, Cabinet Secretary Yoshimasa Hayashi, delivered almost the same speech word for word. However, he added that the authorities "will take appropriate measures regarding excessive currency movements", hinting at another currency intervention.   This hint from Yoshimasa Hayashi scared 60% of experts who voted for the pair's southward movement and yen strengthening, 20% pointed north, and 20% took a neutral position. The opinion of the indicators is unambiguous, as they have never heard of interventions. Therefore, all 100% of trend indicators and oscillators on D1 are green, although a quarter of the latter are in the overbought zone. The nearest support level is around 160.25, followed by 159.20, 158.65, 157.60-157.80, 156.60, 155.45-155.70, 154.50-154.70, 153.60, 153.00, 151.90-152.15, 150.80-151.00. The nearest resistance is in the 160.85 zone, followed by 161.30 and 162.50.   In the upcoming week, the calendar highlights Monday, 01 July. On this day, the Tankan Large Manufacturers Index will be published. No other important macro statistics regarding the state of the Japanese economy are planned for the coming days.   CRYPTOCURRENCIES: Causes and Consequences of "Black Monday" on 24 June     Monday, 24 June, presented investors with a very unpleasant surprise – on this day, bitcoin's price fell below $60,000 for the first time since 03 May, reaching $58,468 at one point. Ethereum, in turn, fell below $3,250. Analysts highlight several reasons for the active sell-offs, noting that they reflect overall instability in global financial markets and uncertainty about monetary and regulatory policies in several leading countries, especially China and the US. However, there are also more specific factors that contributed to the development of the bearish trend.   In mid-June, the German government began selling off a huge amount of bitcoins (about 50,000 BTC) confiscated in January. Panic sentiment sharply intensified after the announcement on 24 June that creditor payments for the bankrupt crypto exchange Mt.Gox would begin in early July. The total amount of funds to be distributed among former clients is 162,100 BTC, roughly $10 billion. Bitcoin responded to this news with an 8% drop. It’s no surprise – such a volume of coins flooding the free market can seriously knock down prices. In the derivatives market, long positions worth $177 million were forcibly liquidated, and the total financing rate for futures contracts turned negative for the first time in June, indicating that sales exceeded purchases.   It is precisely on the expectations of Mt.Gox debt payments that the flagship crypto asset's quotes reached the lowest level in the past eight weeks last Monday. In this situation, two things are encouraging. Firstly, the deadline for repayment falls on 31 October, and it's possible that payments will be made in parts over four months rather than all at once. And secondly, there is hope that not all creditors will rush to convert their bitcoins into fiat, but will hold onto them, hoping for price growth.   In addition to the above, BTC miners exerted some downward pressure on the market. It became known that their coin reserves reached a 14-year low, as they had to sell a significant amount of BTC due to the April halving to cover operational expenses. Recall that the cost of mining bitcoin, according to JPMorgan analysts, is $53,000. Historically, this cost level is a strong support for BTC/USD. However, even in March, JPMorgan did not rule out that after the halving, bitcoin could temporarily fall to $42,000.   In the absence of positive signals, the demand for spot bitcoin ETFs continues to decline, major market participants slow down their activity, and start to take profits. This also pressures the prices. CEO of investment company CryptoQuant Ki Young Ju calculated that over the past two weeks, bitcoin whales and miners set a record by selling coins worth $1.2 billion.   According to 10x Research, all last week, US spot BTC ETFs recorded investor outflows, and on 21 June, net outflow exceeded $105 million. 10x Research believes that bitcoin will now need to find a new price range to stabilize the decline and then find growth catalysts. In the medium term, according to 10x Research analysts, it is not worth expecting BTC to return above $70,000.   Popular analyst Matthew Hyland noted that the combined bitcoin balance on centralized exchanges reached a multi-year low. In theory, this could be seen as a bullish signal, but the crypto market leader is not yet eager to show an upward trend. Naturally, the publication of key US economic data could serve as a vector for further cryptocurrency movements. If the Fed takes its first step in easing its monetary policy in September, it could support risky assets, including bitcoin. According to Cryptology experts, the chances of bitcoin reaching a new all-time high by the end of September are quite high, and what is happening now is a phase of accumulation.   Despite the current decline, many investors remain optimistic, citing the cyclical nature of the crypto market. They also do not forget about the US elections. For example, former Goldman Sachs CEO Raoul Pal predicted significant bitcoin and cryptocurrency market growth in Q4 2024. In an episode of The Wolf Of All Streets podcast, the financier noted that risky assets like bitcoin usually rally against the backdrop of US presidential elections. "The final quarter of an election year is a real 'banana zone' for all assets. It always is," Pal optimistically stated, noting that the "banana zone" for cryptocurrencies in autumn is much more pronounced than, for example, for the Nasdaq index.   Bitcoin was also supported by billionaire Michael Saylor. His company, MicroStrategy, is one of the largest bitcoin holders in the world, with 205,000 BTC on its balance sheet. Despite the negative trend, it increased its reserves by another 11,931 BTC (over $700 million) in the past month alone. Saylor is convinced of the first cryptocurrency's ability to grow to $10 million with support from China and other factors. He believes that in the future, governments, especially China, will fully embrace the first cryptocurrency and integrate it into the state infrastructure. The entrepreneur declared all pre-bitcoin economic instruments obsolete. "Before Satoshi Nakamoto, economics was a pseudoscience. All economists before Satoshi tried to develop economic laws with shells, glass beads, pieces of paper, and credit instruments," the businessman wrote, calling bitcoin a "perfect asset."   In previous reviews, we already wrote that the launch of exchange-traded spot ETFs on Ethereum could give a certain boost to the digital asset market. On 25 June, SEC (US Securities and Exchange Commission) Chairman Gary Gensler noted that the registration process for new ETFs is "going smoothly," and the approval date depends on how quickly applicants submit adjusted S-1 forms. Bloomberg analysts call 02 July the expected approval date for new products. Reuters, citing anonymous sources, reports that a consensus has been reached between fund managers and the SEC in negotiations, and only the "final touches" remain.   Co-founder of venture company Mechanism Capital Andrew Kang stated that after the approval of ETH-ETF, Ethereum's rate could correct by 30%, falling to $2,400. In his opinion, at this stage, the main altcoin attracts much less attention from institutional investors compared to bitcoin. Based on this, ETH-ETF will attract only 15% of funds compared to what BTC-ETF received at the start.   Kang noted that to increase Ethereum's attractiveness among investors, its ecosystem needs to be positioned as a decentralized financial settlement layer, a global computer, or a Web3 application store. At the same time, it will be difficult to sell new ideas for Ethereum's application to funds, as the asset is perceived by investors as an overvalued stock of a large technology company.   Significantly more positively views the future of Ethereum Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise, a company managing cryptocurrency funds. In his opinion, the appearance of a long-awaited exchange product is undoubtedly a positive factor, and the net inflow of investments into ETH-ETF over the first 18 months will amount to $15 billion. In his analysis, he relies on the experience of Canada and the EU, where in similar products the inflow ratio for Ethereum and Bitcoin is approximately 1 to 4 (i.e., 25%). In other words, if in the first quarter of work for spot Bitcoin-ETF the total inflow was $26.9 billion, for Ethereum it is expected to be at the level of $6.7 billion. In this case, in three months of work, the leading altcoin could rise to $4,400-5,000.   CEO of SkyBridge Capital Anthony Scaramucci believes that the price of Ethereum could rise even higher, reaching $10,000-12,000. Regarding bitcoin, the entrepreneur allows for its growth to $170,000-250,000. The main driver, in his opinion, will be the further institutional acceptance of cryptocurrency. Scaramucci called the approval of spot exchange ETFs an important regulatory barrier breakthrough for attracting new capital. Thanks to this, in his opinion, the share of digital gold in the portfolios of major players will soon be about 3%.   As of the evening of Friday, 28 June, BTC/USD is trading at $60,190, and ETH/USD is in the $3,390 zone. The total crypto market capitalization is $2.24 trillion ($2.34 trillion a week ago). The bitcoin Fear & Greed Index (Crypto Fear & Greed Index) has dropped from 63 to 47 points over the past 7 days, moving from the Greed zone to the Neutral zone.   In conclusion, here is another observation from Matt Hougan. The CIO of Bitwise presented three reasons why long-term investments in both bitcoin and Ethereum are more advantageous compared to investing only in bitcoin. These are: 1. portfolio diversification 2. the opportunity to earn on very different ecosystems and 3. economic benefit.   Considering the difference in the capitalization levels of bitcoin and Ethereum, Hougan believes that 75% of the capital should be invested in BTC and 25% in ETH. According to calculations, over the period from May 2020 to May 2024, the yield of such an investment portfolio is 3% per annum higher than one that only contains bitcoin. However, Hougan acknowledges that in the shorter term, a portfolio including 100% BTC outperforms a diversified one. Moreover, investing only in bitcoin carries fewer risks due to its higher market capitalization and features such as limited coin issuance and a phased reduction in the inflation rate to zero.   NordFX Analytical Group   Notice: These materials are not investment recommendations or guidelines for working in financial markets and are intended for informational purposes only. Trading in financial markets is risky and can result in a complete loss of deposited funds.   #eurusd #gbpusd #usdjpy #btcusd #ethusd #ltcusd #xrpusd #forex #forex_example #signals #cryptocurrencies #bitcoin #stock_market   https://nordfx.com/ 
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