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The detail is that people do not see the potential that bitcoin has, since the majority see that it goes up and sells what it has in btc, forgetting the potential it has.

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We all within this crypto world can see the clear advantages of bitcoin over the traditional banking system, but most of the people are still ignorant about this and even think of bitcoin as some sort of scam or unsafe investment. Such beliefs are actually fed by national governments, for example the recent ban of crypto derivatives for retail, imposed by the UK government, who uses typical arguments, such as extreme volatility and the use of cryptocurrency for financial crime. This kind of measurements naturally limit the adoption of bitcoin, making unlikely that bitcoin would take over banks in the foreseeable future.

 

 

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I do not know how it will end up being better to buy crypto. Or the bank, there is no person who has worked and has not gone to the bank not once

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This is a very interesting question to invest your money in crypto-currencies or to keep it in a bank, this depends on what you trust the most, it also depends on the moment and the quote at the moment of buying the crypto-currencies, it is true that having the money in the bank is not profitable at all, but to the common of many people it feels more secure, In my opinion, if it's a good option to buy credits, especially BTC, to offset the risk you run, you need that money urgently and at that moment the BTC is in low price due to its volatility, but if you don't need that money you can loosen it up for a long time and the BTC will be a good reserve of value.

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The truth is that the answer to that question can vary greatly since I currently doubt that bitcoin will be able to surpass a bank. 

The reason is simple, as I have already mentioned before in these same types of questions, while people still do not evolve as Internet users and do not know much about cryptocurrencies, it makes it impossible for bitcoin to achieve banks because it remembers that bitcoin is based 

In demand, the more people buy bitcoin it stays at a better price, perhaps in the near future there may be more people interested in cryptocurrencies but I still doubt that there are enough people to make bitcoin surpass the Banks. 

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Laws used to prohibit cryptocurrencies, and banks rejected them as something that does not exist, but now the matter has changed. Now we see banks moving towards storing assets in the form of cryptocurrencies and heading to use blockchain in their administrative work and in their financial system, and this matter because of their inability to control or curb crypto, and therefore the only solution is merger. With him

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Investments are secured in banks. It can save a small amount, but it does not lose. In crypto currencies, it can both earn and lose. But there is a beauty in crypto coins. Regardless of your money, you have the chance to double your money depending on the rates. Bank for those who do not like risk. But if you say that you can buy according to winning or not to lose, you can choose crypto coins.

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wow this is an exciting fight.
but as long as the world economy is stable the Bank remains the winner.
we do not know how long the economy will really collapse until people do not trust banks anymore.

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I prefer cryptocurrencies and blockchain by a lot. because only I manage my money and I do not depend on any government. besides that I do not have to pay taxes for having cryptos and everything is totally anonymous. And besides that, acquiring an account in btc is much easier than acquiring a bank account

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Sabemos muy bien que estos 2 no se llevan nada bien porque son tan opuestos ya que el banco durante muchos años no ha usado a través de gobiernos para debitar el dinero que tenemos en él, es decir, se vuelve cada vez más caro y nuestro dinero se puede dar menos utilidad y si lo tenemos en depósito las ganancias son realmente escasas pero si lo tenemos en cripto podemos tener intereses mucho mayores y obtener ganancias realmente obvias con porcentajes más altos que en los bancos

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Bitcoin was born as an alternative monetary system to the traditional seven, and its north is to be a financial method that allows guaranteeing economic stability to those who invest in it, be it people, companies or states. Many still believe in investment media such as banks, others rely on the traditional such as gold; The truth of the case is that globalization, the macroeconomic indices of inflation have led to the growing investment in cryptocurrencies and more specifically to Bitcoin because it is a currency with high stability indices.

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On 10/15/2019 at 1:10 PM, duncun007 said:

Here is a nice explanation, with some music and humour throw in for good measure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaMJi1_1tkA

I enjoyed it a lot, hope you guys do too!

I have enjoy it a lot with some knowledge about the decentralized crypto currencies and the fiat currencies as well i think the crypto currencies is like a business because the prices have ups and downs therefore we have so many chances to get profits on all the move predictions .

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В сегодняшнем криптовалютном мире враги - не банки, а друзья центральные банки - главная цель, потому что центральный банк может печатать деньги в мире, банки никогда не могут быть враждебными по отношению к кому-либо в мире, но пока они работают только с бумажными деньгами , потому что бумажные деньги более надежны, но когда крипторынок захватит мир, банки перейдут на другую сторону

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Decentralization is one system that tries to be applied in various fields. including financial services. So, therefore, It is much more profitable for banks to put cryptocurrency into their services, through centralization, otherwise they can really lose.


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I have never seen nasdaq, nyse  etc getting hacked. And so many crypto exchanges got hacked. Regarding money, the only point in crypto was that unlike banks people can't print more money which Bitcoin sufficed. But now that everyone is printing their crypto then how is this better than normal banks? It's much worse.

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very interesting topic.

I think there is no comparison, on the one hand the banks want to keep control, on the other hand crypto is increasing.

Something will happen worldwide, so as not to be left behind, the banks and the states will do something.

In any case there is no comparison, much better investment in crypto, think that in Italy for interest-bearing bonds they give 0.50% per year.

 

moreover, many banks have gone bankrupt and others are about to do so

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We all know that banks are powerful and in the end I am sure that somehow they will have a way of adopting Crypto because they are not fools among themselves they have to have hopefully unequivocal power of the
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This topic it is intresting, good question because it is like Shakespeare's. Banks(stablishment) or cryptos(the people) well of course banks are going to vanish, from th fisrts time they took a house from a old man and push him to suicide.. they have no heart, so they have its days counted. And cryptos its the freedom  for the people who trump talked in his speech

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On 15.10.2019 at 10:10, duncun007 said:

Ever since the financial crisis 2008 people became aware that their money isnt safe at banks and so are their investments, bitcoin emerged as a savior and an alternative that might eventually replace banks, (fast-forward thru the parts where bitcoin price went from .01$ to 20k)  I've heard too many mainstream economists saying bitcoin isnt going to last and no sane government would accept it because simply we dont know who controls it.

my question is in this ongoing war between bitcoin and banks who is going to win and why?

 

I think Bitcoin will win in the end as it is more reliable. Good luck with your earnings!

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Due to these situartions and econimic crisis like Venzuela etc I think people realize the need for Bitcoin or Crypto. This will happen more and more as too many corrupt governments so in the end overall Bitcoin should win the war with the banks. Even if the banks offer Crypto it means they gave in to it so its the winner.

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Cryptocurrencies do not have the same trust as banks. Until countries recognize the crypto at the state level, banks are winning unambiguously.

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They cannot be separated because in some way they are already linked because bitcoin in some way is a currency and that is where the nexus is, that is why Bitcoin will not disappear, on the contrary its value will increase with the passage of time and banks and banks. Governments will have to adopt it if they don't want to fall behind in money, investment and technology.

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nothing is gonna happen to future of bitcoin and altcoins. they continue to rise up, they can't do anything because people know the policy of banks well and do not deceive their promises. it's interesting that countries and banks give us a handful of colored papers and they call it money and property ! now people are deciding to make non-counterfeit currency with their own bitcoin, and we are still successful at it.

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It would be necessary to compare cryptos with FIAT money. Banks are the same as exchanges. The big difference that exists is that cryptocurrency transactions are open source and everyone can access them, so all those problems in which banks are involved today would disappear.

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Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general will win.These are some of the reasons:
your transactions are much more efficient and secure,
many more economical
they are instantaneous
are independent of weekends and holidays,
you have full control of money

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    • Итак. Вы решили подключить на свой сайт платежку и столкнулись с вопросом: какие бывают платежные шлюзы?   Все платежные решения можно разделить на 4 категории. Первые 2 категории достаточно трудны в реализации и их использование может вызвать лишь дополнительные проблемы, но проигнорировать их мы не можем:   Собственная платежная система   Это, пожалуй, самое трудно в реализации решение. Без своей команды разработчиков, которые создадут и будут поддерживать платежную систему, не обойтись. При этом придется разобраться в огромном количестве тонкостей этой сферы. На выходе, попытка сэкономить на комиссии готовых решений обернется еще большими расходами и потерей времени. Подойдет, пожалуй, только для очень крупных компаний со своим штатом разработчиков.       Платежный шлюз от местного банка   Крупные компании, работающие в одном регионе могут смело подключать шлюзы от банков. Если же компания работает в нескольких регионах, такое решение будет не лучшим, так как для каждого региона придется подключать отдельный банк, а это накладно и с точки зрения разработки и с точки зрения времени, потраченного на сбор документов и открытие компаний в каждой стране присутствия.     А вот оставшиеся два варианта – это то, чем пользуются компании из разных стран и работающие в разных направлениях: от сервисов по приему СМС и продаже цифровых товаров, до крупных Gambling и Betting-компаний, которым нужно быстро и четко обрабатывать платежи из разных стран.     Внешний шлюз   Отличное решение для компаний, которые работают в нескольких регионах, либо по какой-то другой причине не могут, или не хотят подключать шлюз от банков. Именно это решение в последние годы использует большинство представителей мелкого, среднего и даже крупного бизнеса. Оно наиболее простое и подключить такое решение можно в считанные дни.       Встроенный по API шлюз   Второе по популярности решение. Оно смотрится максимально органично для покупателя, ведь все действия будут происходить в рамках одного сайта, без лишних редиректов. Но в данном решении продавцу придется самостоятельно разработать страницу для приема платежей, подключить обработку платежей через API платежного сервиса, а также позаботиться о сохранности платежных данных, если они будут собираться в рамках выбранного платежного метода.     Кстати, оба варианта доступны в процессинговом сервисе MoneyGate. Подробнее на сайте: Moneygate.biz
    • CryptoNews of the Week     – The Republican candidate for the upcoming US elections, Donald Trump, has declared his intention to become the "cryptocurrency president." Speaking in San Francisco, he presented himself as a defender of digital assets and criticized Democrats' attempts to regulate the industry. According to Reuters, Trump raised $12 million for his campaign at an event for venture capitalists from Silicon Valley, organized by Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks at Sacks' mansion in the Pacific Heights area. Media reports indicate that executives from the crypto exchange Coinbase, the founders of the Gemini trading platform, Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss, and other industry representatives were present at the event. Intercom CEO Eoghan McCabe shared on X about his participation: "I spoke with six people there. None identified as Republicans. All had voted for or donated to Democrats in the past. Now they support this guy [Trump] for his policies on war, immigration, cryptocurrency, and more. These elections are a referendum on these issues."   – The attitude towards cryptocurrencies will be a key difference between the candidates for the US presidency, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, though neither understands the topic. Billionaire Mark Cuban stated this: "Do you really think [Trump] understands anything about cryptography beyond making money from selling NFTs? Neither candidate understands. But I've often said that Biden will have to choose between [SEC Chairman] Gary Gensler and crypto voters, or it could cost him the White House."  Discussing the upcoming elections on X, ASI crypto-lawyer Preston Byrne noted that Trump's crypto policy is "actually very substantial and well thought out, while Biden's approach is insane and punitive."   – The "Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025" was submitted to the US Senate on 3 June 2024. On 5 June, Senator Mark Warner's strategic amendment to this bill was published on the social network X, granting the US president new broad powers. This allows the president to "prohibit any transactions between any person under US jurisdiction and foreign intermediaries in digital asset transactions."  Financial lawyer Scott Johnsson criticized the law due to its wide scope. He sees it as an attempt to control digital assets under the guise of fighting terrorism, as the amendments added by Warner are borrowed from the Anti-Terrorism Financing Act.   – Late in the evening (CET) on 12 June, the FOMC (Federal Open Market Committee) of the US Federal Reserve will decide on the dollar interest rate. Historically, such decisions have always significantly impacted bitcoin's price. In this regard, ChatGPT-4o AI was tasked with forecasting BTC's price based on technical analysis and financial analysts' assumptions.  According to the AI, bitcoin will trade in the $68,000-73,000 range. However, a rate cut or hints of an upcoming reduction could push BTC beyond this range. In this unlikely economic scenario, ChatGPT-4o predicts the leading cryptocurrency will trade between $73,000 and $75,000 or higher.   – Over the past few days, the crypto market leader has lost nearly 10% in value. Many experts believe this is due to investors' concerns that US inflation will remain high for a long time. Under such conditions, a quick easing of the Federal Reserve's monetary policy is unlikely. Enthusiasm was also dampened by the fact that spot bitcoin ETFs broke a 19-day streak of investment inflows. On 11 June alone, industry funds lost nearly $65 million. MN Capital founder and analyst Michaël van de Poppe noted that investors are acting more cautiously ahead of the FOMC meeting on 12 June. He does not rule out that seller pressure will persist in the near term. Under such conditions, bitcoin could correct to $65,000. However, van de Poppe does not expect a deep price drop, as significant liquidity is concentrated around the $60,000 mark, indicating strong support, and positive dynamics could be supported by geopolitical instability.   – Traders note that "digital gold" has recently been trading within a narrow range of $66,000 to $72,000. One popular market participant considers the lower boundary an ideal entry point, while entry at the upper boundary carries high risk.  Despite recommended caution, over 70% of the crypto community participants in several surveys believe BTC is on the verge of continued growth. For example, a trader nicknamed Captain Faibik is confident that bitcoin is preparing to break out of the "expanding wedge" technical analysis pattern. Breaking above its upper boundary, in his opinion, will open the way for the cryptocurrency to rise above $94,000. Trader Titan of Crypto, in turn, expects bitcoin to reach $100,000 this summer.  Community participants also point to the activity of large investors as a sign of BTC's growth potential. Whales, according to crypto industry representatives, are actively taking long positions in bitcoin. Cryptoquant CEO Ki Young Ju noted that the $69,000 level has become particularly attractive for large investors.   – By the end of 2024, the first cryptocurrency will be worth between $125,000 and $135,000, according to BitGo CEO Mike Belshe. He believes that one of the catalysts for bitcoin's growth will be the high level of US national debt. "Our macroeconomic climate continues to confirm the necessity of bitcoin. Without a doubt, the US national debt is out of control. […] This situation supports the idea that bitcoin is the gold of the new generation," Belshe said.  He also noted that the US dollar is losing its position as the world's reserve currency due to US foreign policy. The BitGo CEO believes that the country uses the dollar as a weapon and a tool for manipulation. "Thus, the US national debt crisis is one thing, foreign policy and sanctions control is another. And BRICS is providing alternative payment systems. […] This is the story of why bitcoin exists," he concluded.   – The new Binance CEO Richard Teng, who succeeded Changpeng Zhao, believes that bitcoin will soon exceed $80,000. Teng associates the potential new high with the launch of spot BTC-ETFs traded on stock exchanges. This has strengthened trust in the asset, and retail traders and institutions no longer perceive it as risky. The Binance CEO also suggests that cryptocurrency legalization is possible if Donald Trump is elected president of the United States. Declaring himself a "crypto president," Trump stated in May that the US should lead the global crypto industry.   – The self-proclaimed first resident of Bitcoin City, American Corbin Keegan, left El Salvador without seeing his dream city begin to take shape. In November 2021, El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele announced plans to establish a crypto settlement. Upon hearing this news, Keegan left Chicago and headed to the South American country to become Bitcoin City's first resident. However, his patience eventually ran out, and he returned home.  The project's implementation was likely frozen due to a lack of funding. Bukele wanted to raise the necessary funds through the sale of "Volcano Bonds." These securities were planned for release in Q1 this year, but for various reasons, they did not see the light of day. Notice: These materials should not be deemed a recommendation for investment or guidance for working on financial markets: they are for informative purposes only. Trading on financial markets is risky and can lead to a loss of money deposited.   #eurusd #gbpusd #usdjpy #btcusd #ethusd #ltcusd #xrpusd #forex #forex_example #signals #cryptocurrencies #bitcoin #stock_market   https://nordfx.com/
    • Cardano Node 9.0 будет запущен в июне и подготовит платформу к форку Chang   Cardano Node 9.0 будет запущен в июне. Это обновление подготовит платформу блокчейна к долгожданному форку Chang. Основатель Cardano Чарльз Хоскинсон сообщил об этом событии на X. Хоскинсон отметил, что хардфорк может произойти после того, как 70% операторов стейкингового пула (SPO) установят новый узел. Это приведет Cardano в эпоху Вольтера, ознаменовав состояние полной децентрализации — огромную веху для сети и всей индустрии блокчейнов. Хоскинсон назвал это самым значимым событием в истории Cardano.   Хоскинсон описал путь развития за последнее десятилетие, заявив, что создание Cardano было похоже на строительство нации. Он выразил гордость за сообщество и оптимизм на будущее. Хоскинсон считает, что Cardano дает надежду отрасли и всему миру, и призвал всех оказать значительное влияние в следующем десятилетии. Три дня назад основатель прокомментировал несоответствие между восприятием СМИ и реальным прогрессом Cardano. Он раскритиковал криптовалютные СМИ за непризнание достижений Cardano.
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