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US Bitcoin ban:
US President Donald Trump has imposed a ban on Bitcoin cryptocurrency, especially after it has become a safe haven for smugglers, traffickers, drugs, and sex. Some countries and entities subject to US sanctions have become cryptocurrencies because they have no censorship or Belonging to any country.
On the other hand, there are 5 or 7 states where cryptocurrencies are freely used. The largest and most famous trading platform is based in Los Angeles, and the largest mining station in the world is located in America.

The situation is not limited to the United States alone, but there are countries that arrest citizens who trade in digital currencies, while the state is investing or mining, another type of looting,
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21 minutes ago, Silvinator said:

You have to remember that the United States is the only and great power of the world and one of the reasons that they don't want anything with Bitcoin is because it can move the Dollar as a currency used in the international market. Sooner or later that will happen and the dollar will not be the main currency in the world. I think that China and Russia along with Blockchain technology will be very important in the coming years.

YEAH BROTHER FOR SURE IT WILL HAPPEND AND 2022 IS NOT FAR

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1 minute ago, Silvinator said:


Many say that the dollar is overvalued but I don't know if I can say that, but if we really want a free international market, options other than the American currency should appear.

Lats hope it happend verey soon because i want to see what will happend if dollar fall down

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1 hour ago, Silvinator said:

You have to remember that the United States is the only and great power of the world and one of the reasons that they don't want anything with Bitcoin is because it can move the Dollar as a currency used in the international market. Sooner or later that will happen and the dollar will not be the main currency in the world. I think that China and Russia along with Blockchain technology will be very important in the coming years.

Bitcoin will never be a currency and replace any dominant currencies like Dollar, Euro, or Yuan. Bitcoin has a store value and acts like gold. The supply of BTC is limited. Dollar's is not. 

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1 minute ago, Silvinator said:

You are absolutely right in that regard. I say it will be part of the options of some countries or companies to protect their finances. Part of the diversification.
 

Unfortunately, bitcoin is not scalable enough to provide those high transaction volume. It still struggles because of low tps (7 transactions per second).

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2 minutes ago, Silvinator said:

OK I did not know it. Thanks for the info. I just hope this market is maintained and we can make a profit over time.

We are in the recovery phase and will enter to the bull market soon. Wait for the halving which will be in May 2020. After that fasten your seat belts! :B

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49 minutes ago, yupi84goro said:

U.S Government will always try to destroy bitcoin because they think they can replace positions dollar as an international currency. But whatever America does will have no significant impact on the development of bitcoin. Because bitcoin cannot be controlled by anyone, I expect bitcoin can be an international payment instrument. You can imagine making it easy for people to shop online like on amazon, ebay, alibaba, etc if bitcoin is recognized as a legal payment tool.

Yeah thats correct, beside of that its not possible for them to calculate taxes if people start to store their money in crypto world and not in the banks

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17 minutes ago, seriousguywithfunnypants said:

Unfortunately, bitcoin is not scalable enough to provide those high transaction volume. It still struggles because of low tps (7 transactions per second).

Bitcoin never needs to replace any fiat currency.  Bitcoin is a crypto currency.  There is nothing to ban! It’s matter of taxation whenever it’s involved a capital gains.  Speaking of taxes, Trump is having trouble to hide his these days that he may need U.S. Supereme Court to appeal his case next.

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3 minutes ago, Bnance10 said:

Bitcoin never needs to replace any fiat currency.  Bitcoin is a crypto currency.  There is nothing to ban! It’s matter of taxation whenever it’s involved a capital gains.  Speaking of taxes, Trump is having trouble to hide his these days that he may need U.S. Supereme Court to appeal his case next.

I don't want to launder my money in the bull market. I need to find a good accountant who is specialized in crypto taxation. Do you guys now anyone in Canada? 😄

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2 minutes ago, seriousguywithfunnypants said:

I don't want to launder my money in the bull market. I need to find a good accountant who is specialized in crypto taxation. Do you guys now anyone in Canada? 😄

I heard Canada is a Wild West when it comes to money launder with crypto, is that right? 🙂

Blockchain records are more permanent and true than any other records.  What does any government have to worry about?

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Remember something, when it comes to prohibitions it becomes more tentative to do everything to violate those rules, Bitcoin is about money, when people wake up and see the potential in technology taking advantage of Bitcoin, do you think they will follow the prohibitions?

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12 hours ago, Bnance10 said:

I heard Canada is a Wild West when it comes to money launder with crypto, is that right? 🙂

Blockchain records are more permanent and true than any other records.  What does any government have to worry about?

Exactly. However, somehow I need to clean my capital gain money because I don't want to worry about any tax claim in the future. That's my nightmare! 

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Just now, seriousguywithfunnypants said:

Exactly. However, somehow I need to clean my capital gain money because I don't want to worry about any tax claim in the future. That's my nightmare! 

I’m gonna keep checking the local college catalogs.  Whenever I see Crypto CPA Major, then we know Bitcoin is about to reign Wall St 🙂

On a serious note, government will hire specialists to deal with crypto and blockchain technology.  Whether it is in law, taxes, or law enforcement, just as they have been dealing with fiat and precious metals..

And Congress, Law Makers in various levels will need to learn about crypto and write new law for us all to follow.

They only need to quit assuming crypto enthusiasts are often a bunch of scammers or bad guys who try to evade taxes or want to aid terrorists to hurt the innocent victims.

Btw, the latest finding from US Treasury that most terrorists still use the fiat system.  As soon as they learn how to use crypto, the crypto community will help law enforcement to bust them.  That is what government should be thinking.

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Also they said that Bitcoin can't be ban. So how can we be sure if Bitcoin will be ban or no. They are the top country left to decide the further faith of Bitcoin

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I don't know well but I think every state in the US has its own law and do the things their own way. Trump can say what he wants, but decisions are not entirely taken by him, so that's why there are states where mining and crypto is entirely legal and it's a normal economic activity.

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I think China and Russia will start all this. blockchain will be chosen by them and they will trade. might compete with America. it seems like it.

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I think that US President Donald Trump would like to impose a ban on everything he does not like, and this ridiculous argument that Bitcoin is a safe haven for criminals is an empty argument but rather the main goal is to prevent countries over which America exercises an economic embargo from evading this ban through Bitcoin.

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Of course some Government and authorities have a doubt in this kind of concepts because Crypto Currency is uncontrollable unlike fiat system. But on the other side this banning must not happen because all of the bad effects are done by the users not the Crypto Currency itself because as we know Crypto Currency have a good purpose.

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I don't really understand how the United States government works but sometimes the state gets special privileges such as cryptocurrency. Although from the center it is in the field but in some places like you said it is legal, Anyway I only hope that crypto will be fully legal in the United States because of that become an example for various countries and may be followed later.

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Cryptocurrency and blockchain are very developed in the USA and this can be viewed in the online chart. It captures many points, especially mining. The fact that Trump said something about cryptocurrencies, it matters. 

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In the some areas of the world where the crypto currency is legal and in some areas the crypto currency is illegal. But the government also take initiative of the crypto currency and every government tries to make their own crypto currency

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All the rumors has pushed the state to ban it or limit it as they have seen unstable security that could to loss of lots of money. The government itself has the power to regulate it but decided to prohibit it rather than supporting. 

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I think right now there are just a speculation about government, authorities  or banks...etc I dont think that right now with the cryptocurrency actual situation will be adopted buy government or any other sector! is not possible because his illegality and no price stable.

 

 


 

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On 10/14/2019 at 4:44 AM, bobjoemega said:

US Bitcoin ban:
US President Donald Trump has imposed a ban on Bitcoin cryptocurrency, especially after it has become a safe haven for smugglers, traffickers, drugs, and sex. Some countries and entities subject to US sanctions have become cryptocurrencies because they have no censorship or Belonging to any country.
On the other hand, there are 5 or 7 states where cryptocurrencies are freely used. The largest and most famous trading platform is based in Los Angeles, and the largest mining station in the world is located in America.

The situation is not limited to the United States alone, but there are countries that arrest citizens who trade in digital currencies, while the state is investing or mining, another type of looting,
In the end, I want to thank everyone who has read this report and I want to thank the owner of this forum because it pays us money for expressing and exchanging views despite the natural differences that divide us.

Do you agree with the idea I'm trying to promote? Please leave a comment 

I don't think Donald Trump announced about bitcoin bann or not. I think the application of crypto is on pending. Now he is busy to make his country border wall.


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You have to remember that the united states is the only and when people wake up and see that potential in technology taking advantage of bitcoin ,

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