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Well documented and informative content one has to survey in depth before trading or investing in a particular coin because it is amazing to find out that top coins in the market cap turns out to be dumb after few years due to low liquidity.

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Thank you for sharing those graphs and information about the top cryptocurrencies over the years, this will give us an idea of which are the strongest cryptocurrencies, for us to investigate about them and know if we should invest in them because they are the ones with the most chances of surviving have.

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On 10/18/2020 at 1:58 AM, rekter said:

Trust me, i know what i am talking about. I bought my NXT when it still was one of the top coins. Next year everything started to feel like a scam when it started to drop more and more slowly towards year 2016. I was still making more NXT by trading but as NXT value dropped in usd and btc i wasn't making any "real" money.

@rekter First of all, I would like to congratulate for this balanced topic. While reading the very first line, I thought my man is delivering an investment advise 😂 ! Risks are always involved in the cryptocurrency investments. I never tried NXT that you are mentioning in your topic for a long term investment so I even do not know its current performances in the cryptocurrency markets.It is not always necessary to get tied with the top currencies from CMC to make investments. If some projects are good, they surely bring fruitful results in future.

In case of Chainlink(LINK) and Cardano(ADA), initially, there were a few investors to choose these currencies. Probably they thought, they had probably a common concept like project is going to be dead soon but situation changed completely to revolt the price of them.So everything can happen in crypto world. 

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Such a well explained detailed post. I appreciate your effort on this one. I agree with you on the diversification aspect. As correctly stated in this post if your going for huge amount of money for investment then it is best if you diversify your portfolio in terms of incorporating more cryptocurrency is into your portfolio so that you could minimise the risk of losing money as well as maximize returns through long term investment.

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I think that currency storage is not good. You just drop the price and you lose a lot. Therefore, I find that achieving a daily or monthly profit is better than storing currencies for a significant period or more without interest, and you may lose a lot. I do not advise you at all. Be careful. I lost more than 2000 dollars due to storage. be careful

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On 10/25/2020 at 4:35 AM, Whited35 said:

@rekter First of all, I would like to congratulate for this balanced topic. While reading the very first line, I thought my man is delivering an investment advise 😂 ! Risks are always involved in the cryptocurrency investments. I never tried NXT that you are mentioning in your topic for a long term investment so I even do not know its current performances in the cryptocurrency markets.It is not always necessary to get tied with the top currencies from CMC to make investments. If some projects are good, they surely bring fruitful results in future.

Oh no, not an advice :). I was just interested to take a look myself because i've heard this advice so often.. At this point the whole market don't make any sense to me. My friends are making 5x with every token in uniswap :D. And they are like opposite of old top coins/tokens. I feel like a noob looking all this defi craze.

 

On 10/25/2020 at 8:26 AM, Nicole018 said:

... it is best if you diversify your portfolio in terms of incorporating more cryptocurrency is into your portfolio so that you could minimise the risk of losing money as well as maximize returns through long term investment.

This plan has worked in the past. Now we only have to see if this plan holds again or is it outdated as the biggest market volume seems to be in new uniswap projects. Time will tell.

 

On 10/25/2020 at 10:23 PM, mohamedpc1 said:

I think that currency storage is not good. You just drop the price and you lose a lot. Therefore, I find that achieving a daily or monthly profit is better than storing currencies for a significant period or more without interest, and you may lose a lot. I do not advise you at all. Be careful. I lost more than 2000 dollars due to storage. be careful

If you read my post again, you will notice that i didn't advice anything. I even mentioned that just few years of hodling could just hurt the portfolio based on the past altcoin chart movements. 

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Its analysis is very interesting, and the comparative statistics that you show are of great help, for those who trust this type of investment. This is a phrase that has been in place for a long time; I am one of those who think that if at some point and after the respective investigations, a project is presented with great prospects for the future, it would be profitable to invest in it.

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Well informative topic for every crypto trader.  I am not long term trader. I prefer to do short term trading and day trading instead of long term trading. There are some top coins which didn't get up and stable their price even whole the year for example xrp. Which is not going up from 0.3$.

And same their are some low rankings coins which pump too much within a month like trust wallet token. It pump from 0.02 to 0.19 in this month. 

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thats a really good topic here mate, this puts into prospective how holding coins can either be very good or very bad if you end up holding the wrong coin, and also shows that you need to be careful holding even big coins because one mistake can cause the whole project to fall down like bitcoinnect did.

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On 10/18/2020 at 4:13 AM, rekter said:

Popular investment advice you will hear in this forum would be something like:

Just invest in top marketcap coins and hodl.

 

Yet some of the top coins change over time and some don't even survive, so how viable this plan has been exactly in last years?

 

I decided to check exactly how much you would have made if you had decided to divide one time investment of $10000, between 10 marketcap coins on different years ($1000 per coin).  I took a 2% tx fee out from the purchases them because that's about average imho.

 

So here are 4 of public portfolios i made in Cryptocompare for the years 2018, 2017, 2016 or 2015 to check how much money you would have done if you had picked any of these years for investing and just hodled. (Click the links to portfolios to have more detailed information.)

 

(Results are not counting possible fork rewards. Also i am excluding USDT because that shouldn't even be on the list)

Let's start from the day 17th Oct 2018, (exactly 2 years ago from today) and go down from there:

 

-> Hodling $10k worth of top marketcap coins from 17th Oct 2018 <-

 

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-> Hodling $10k worth of top marketcap coins from 17th Oct 2017 <-

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-> Hodling $10k worth of top mc coins from 17th Oct 2016 <-

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-> Hodling $10k worth of top coins from 17th Oct 2015 <-

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So, let's talk about this:

 

So, as we can see, even if lot of the top coins will fall from top10, and one of them was outright scam (Bitconnect),

their overall value of them rised a lot just because of few gems. They made 2015 portfolio even peaked to 4 million in 2018.

Most of the coins have been actually rising if you add enough years. But some of them not too much.

This is why we diversify, even if there are some scams, and some of them don't raise a lot, all it takes is few gems.

For example eth it would still be up over  67000 %  from that 2015 investment. So you wouldn't have really need a lot of it.

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So this has worked in the past, will it work again?

 

Sadly, there's no answer to this, marketcaps could already be too high or this is just a start, nobody knows. But this is where you would need that famous patience, because holding just few years can actually just hurt your portfolio, and most people start to call this a scam after that.

 

Trust me, i know what i am talking about. I bought my NXT when it still was one of the top coins. Next year everything started to feel like a scam when it started to drop more and more slowly towards year 2016. I was still making more NXT by trading but as NXT value dropped in usd and btc i wasn't making any "real" money.

 

Even today it hurts to count how much money would i have if i hodled that NXT to peak of the bullrun. That was my most expensive lesson at the time. Technically i would have make more with other projects like eth if i were in them but that was the one i was in, so that's the one i am counting.


I know hodlng is hard, especially if you get hurt by a scam, or other coins are rising while yours is not doing anything, or dropping for a year.

And then there's the fact that if we still would hodl coins like NXT from as far as oct 17th 2014. we would be down almost -58% with it. So there's also right time to sell. No one will just tell you what it is going to be.

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So i am not going to advice you to hodl, but i am not going to advice you not to hodl either. Because there's no one right way to invest.

 

Hopefully we can talk about this in the future, because i made one more portfolio to follow. And this is the portfolio of how much you would have made if you bought $10000 worth of top coins today. If $10k is too hard for you to relate, divide it by 100 and imagine that you had hodled $100 worth, results may surprise you.

 

-> Hodling $10k worth of top mc coins from 17th Oct 2020 <-

Maybe when this thread pops up in 2 years, we either will be kicking a wall or congratulating each other. Good luck.

 

Thanks for sharing this to us. First I just want to congratulate you for having good topic for this forum, many people could benefit to it. Now we knew what we need to used for our investment and for trading. This chart showing us a what is the best coin this year.

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Of course, it is a good idea to hold the top 10 cryptocurrencies and make money from them.  Because at present the market value of all cryptocurrencies is increasing.  As a result, many profits can be made by selling this crypto currency in the future.

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I think top 10 cryptocurrencies are safest way to invest if you are new to the cryptocurrencies. So I would suggest every member to invest in top 10 cryptocurrencies because it is very safe and we can easily get more return from long term.

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Great article, friend! I believe that many altcoins can show excellent results after a long time, usually after a year, or when the administration issues profitable solutions! It is worth noting that the recent situation with TWT and the Uniswap coin, which soared several dozen times, and this is amazing!

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The top coins of market cap are having a bull run nowadays due to which persons holding them are quite pleased. The profits have increased to a great extent.

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An interesting post. Diversification of funds for investment is a good idea. And investing for long term is also good. So investing in the top 5 to 10 currencies is definitely good.

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This is a very informative posts and i can't imagine how much effort you spend on it. I think top 10 coins can't makes us earn money all the time because time by time we can see scam projects reach incredible prices. I think we should really investigate the coins before we put money on it, if we want to invest long term we should ask ourselfs is this project could be useful in the future ?

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A very long but informative post indeed. Thanks for sharing it with us. It is very important to make a research about the projects of the coin and look up their maths like total and max coin allocation etc. This is important especially if you want to invest for longer periods of time. 

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The best option is not to trust a few currencies, and thus the possibility of loss will be greater. The market should be read well and know its chart well before making a purchase, and there is no problem in trusting some new emerging currencies in my opinion.

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Great job dear! You have made a balanced post. And yes its too hard to hold coins when you got know about scams and price of your coin goes down on daily basis. Its a good thing to invest in more then 1 coin because it decreases the chance of lose. 

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Thank you for giving this type of new know about trading. So i can use this knowledge when i came to trade money. And also i get more advantageous with my friends and i can help them with my knowledge also.

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1 minute ago, Designs112 said:

This is a very nice and informative post,these tips will guide us when making surving and investment in the sites,it is good as a trader to know what amount your coins is without checking the price in site 

I'm in the same situation and opinion with you, because I know a lot of members here don't know much about this. But with the help of this great lecture and tips a lot of members will have more knowledge and experience about that.

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Ita good idea brother but the top ten market cap is changing all the time we have the most famous coins like bitcoin ethereum ripple litecoin but other they l8se her place or there is some new coins come to replace other one

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Friend, this topic and information that you are sharing is very good because in addition to having information there are also some graphics to see this is very good because now people will know what the 10 main cryptocurrencies are if they did not know so they can invest in them .

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In my opinion, the best currencies to hold are the currencies with strong projects and currencies that have many uses and are constantly evolving because their price will continue to rise.

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