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57 minutes ago, nongrata0001 said:

Я думаю что положить в Банк и в Биржу особо различий нет так как банк вам можете не отдать ваши деньги а сама биржа может соскамится, единственное с биржи можно быстрее снять средства

Разница есть. И она очень большая. Все вклады гарантируются специальным фондом. Так что такого в принципе не может snm? что банк вам не отдаст ваш депозит. Даже если он обанкротится, вы все равно получите свои копейки.


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Я считаю что для хранения денежных средств лучше использовать банки.

Для увеличения своего бюджета, можно поторговать на биржах, в банке ваши деньги бережно хранятся под страхованием, а на счет бирж я не уверен)

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On 28.08.2020 at 20:20, Rade137 said:

Как вы думаете куда лучше положить деньги? на проверенную биржу или же в банк под %?

 С рисками btc можно и заработать не плохо, так же и потерять, интересно мнение людей и какие аргументы? Если нигде гарантии сохранности нет?

Оптимально диверсифицировать портфель инвестиций - простыми словами, иметь несколько активов с различной доходностью, риском и ликвидностью. Можно, к примеру, держать вклад в банке с возможностью снятия процентов, который приносит постоянный надежный доход, а сумму процентов вкладывать в криптовалюту, фондовый рынок и т.п., по крайней мере, совсем без дохода точно не останешься, еще и приумножить можно

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По мне, так банки надёжнее. Биржа может "рухнуть", впрочем,  как и банк например, может стать банкротом. В виду чего надо основательно подходить к выбору биржи или банка.

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4 hours ago, ol_zy said:

И как вам кошелек поможет, если крипта из него рухнет ниже плинтуса? Вчера вы квартиру (по стоимости) вложили в какую-то монету, а сегодня - это стало около буханки хлеба. Не - спсибо, я лучше валюту в банке или под грушей отложу.

Согласен: стоит иметь запас в твёрдой валюте c низкой волатильностью и свободные деньги для инвестиций.

P.S. Отсылка к груше улыбнула :-).

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Однозначно лучше в банке, так как все риски застрахованы и в случае чего вам выплатят ваши деньги. Ну а биржа вообще для этих целей не подходит. Только для торговли. 

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Я предпочитаю биржу, банки очень маленький процент годовой дают. А в биржах на сегодняшние дни даже в стейкинках можно заработать в неделю больше, без риска причем. Поэтому я предпочитаю биржу!

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On 28.08.2020 at 22:20, Rade137 said:

Как вы думаете куда лучше положить деньги? на проверенную биржу или же в банк под %?

 С рисками btc можно и заработать не плохо, так же и потерять, интересно мнение людей и какие аргументы? Если нигде гарантии сохранности нет?

Я ложил и туда и туда- в результате мне больше понравилось на бирже. Дело в том что в банке проценты никакие. А на бирже можно вложить в стейкинг и получать приличный процент, даже если не торговать- на бирже можно заработать процент больше банковских.

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Я считаю деньги нельзя держать в одном месте. Какую то часть надо держать на "черный день"(у меня это 15%), какую-то в банке(у меня 45%) и нельзя забывать про биржу(у меня на ней хранится 40% банка).

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On 28.08.2020 at 20:20, Rade137 said:

Как вы думаете куда лучше положить деньги? на проверенную биржу или же в банк под %?

 С рисками btc можно и заработать не плохо, так же и потерять, интересно мнение людей и какие аргументы? Если нигде гарантии сохранности нет?

лучше в биржу, в банке настолько мизерные проценты, что ну их нафиг, а так в инвест закинул, и нормально, каждый день получаешь прибыль и уже сам распоряжаешься ей, а не ждешь какой-то 1% пол года, да и с банками пора завязывать, слишком много они уже получили с простых людей

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Смотря чего ты хочешь, быстрого, но рискованного заработка, или медленный доход. Вообще я бы советовал класть деньги не банк, а покупать акции или дивиденды 

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Как мне кажется если есть время на изучение биржи, то лучше в нее вложиться, а если же времени нет - банк

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Никогда не доверял и не буду доверять банкам. Если делать выбор между банком и биржой, то это однозначно будет биржа, так как есть надежные биржи. Например, в YoBit можно кинуть в InvestBox и в любое время забрать свои монетки.

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На самом деле, хоть сначала возникает возмущение от такого сравнения, но в том то и дело что централизованные биржи имеют очень много схожего с банками. Против которых криптоиндустрия и борится. 

Остался ждать развития деценрализованных бирж


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биржа и банк разные вещи, но если говорить о вкладе то лучше разделить 50 на 50 и посмотреть где выгоднее

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В наше время в России не имеет смысла класть деньги в банк. Потому что каждый год инфляция 12-16%, а средний процент в банке 3% и то если повезёт. Выбор очевиден- акции или криптовалюта.

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Зачем где то хранить? Инвестировать, инвестировать и еще раз инвестировать. Деньги должны работать.

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Думаю лучше вложить в недвижимость, она всегда только растет в цене. И всегда можно продать.

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Повторюсь. Если в рассматриваете вклад как больший процент и готовы не обращать внимания на риски то вам прямая дорога на биржу. Если вы хотите более стабильный и безопасный способ то выбирайте банк. Лично я бы вложил часть средств на биржу)

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Я бы положил 25% в банк, 50% под биржу и 25% оставил себе на чёрный день, это двойной заработок, да и деньги при мне будут, как говорится всегда оставляй на чёрный день. 

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Интересный вопрос, скорее биржа, если говорить о депозите, то биржа предлагает лучшие проценты. Если положить например монету то плюс можно ещё заработать не только на проценты, а й на курсе монеты 

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не существует полной сохранности денег от инфляции) везде есть риск. я бы предпочел вкладывать во все по-немногу, чтобы диверсифицировать риски

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On 8/28/2020 at 7:20 PM, Rade137 said:

Как вы думаете куда лучше положить деньги? на проверенную биржу или же в банк под %?

 С рисками btc можно и заработать не плохо, так же и потерять, интересно мнение людей и какие аргументы? Если нигде гарантии сохранности нет?

На самом деле как таковой ответ максимально прост. Из всех криптовалют именно биткоин пока что считается лучшим в плане анонимности, так как где-то может и известны автор  его команда, однако для большей части мира - все это не так. Плюс довольно-таки увесистая и более - менее стабильная стоимость за монету в год, относительно остальных монет, курс которых скачет просто по прихоти любого крупного холдера. Так что да, именно там и именно эта монета будет пользоваться максимальной популярностью

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Among oscillators, only 10% recommend selling, 40% took a neutral position, and 50% recommend buying (10% of them signal overbought conditions). If the pair rises, it will encounter resistance at levels 1.2575-1.2610, 1.2695-1.2710, 1.2755-1.2775, 1.2800-1.2820, and 1.2885-1.2900. In case of a fall, it will face support levels and zones at 1.2490-1.2500, 1.2450, 1.2400-1.2410, 1.2300-1.2330, 1.2185-1.2210, and 1.2070-1.2110, 1.2035. The upcoming week's calendar highlights Tuesday, 14 May, when data from the UK labour market will be released. Also of interest is the Inflation Report hearing scheduled for Wednesday, 15 May.   USD/JPY: $50 Billion Interventions Wasted?   It seems that until the Bank of Japan (BoJ) takes confident and clear steps to tighten its monetary policy, nothing will help the yen. At its meeting on 26 April, the board members of this regulator unanimously decided to leave the key rate and QE program parameters unchanged. Expectedly tough comments on the outlook were also absent. This inaction increased pressure on the national currency, sending the USD/JPY pair to new heights. It continued its cosmic saga, reaching a new 34-year high of 160.22. Following this, Japan's financial authorities finally decided on a double currency intervention. Although there was no official confirmation, experts estimate its total volume at $50 billion.   Did it help? Judging by the USD/JPY chart, not really. The pair headed north again last week. Unlike the euro and the British pound, the yen barely reacted even to weak US labour market data on Thursday, 9 May, only slowing its decline.                    All this occurs amid endless statements from the Japanese Central Bank and Ministry of Finance about their readiness to take necessary measures to reduce speculative pressure on the national currency. The published minutes of the BoJ meeting show that most board members took a "hawkish" stance, calling for a rate hike.   However, many analysts believe that the Bank of Japan will take only one such step in the second half of the year. The last chord of the past five days sounded at 155.75. Economists at Singapore’s United Overseas Bank Limited (UOB) expect the USD/JPY pair to trade in the 154.00-157.20 range in the next 1-3 weeks. UOB also believes that the chances of it falling to 151.55 have significantly diminished. Overall, most experts (70%) simply shrug their shoulders in uncertainty. The remaining 30% persistently expect the yen to strengthen. As for technical analysis, 100% of trend indicators on D1 look north. Among oscillators, 50% are such, 15% point south, and 35% point east. Regarding support/resistance levels, traders should note that with such volatility, the slippage can reach many tens of points. The nearest support level is around 155.25, followed by 154.70, 153.90, 153.10, 151.85-152.25, 151.00, 150.00, after which come 146.50-146.90, 143.30-143.75, and 140.25-141.00. Resistance levels are 156.25, 157.00, 157.80-158.00, 158.60, 159.40, and 160.00-160.25.   Events of the upcoming week include the release on Thursday, 16 May, of preliminary GDP data for Japan for Q1 2024. No other significant publications regarding the Japanese economy are expected in the coming week.   CRYPTOCURRENCIES: A Week of Reflection and Uncertainty     What will happen to bitcoin in the foreseeable future? It seems there is no clear answer to this question. Experts and influencers often point in opposite directions: some shoot for the stars, while others keep their eyes on the ground.   For instance, according to the founder of Pomp Investments, Anthony Pompliano, bitcoin is "stronger than ever." He concluded this based on the 200-day moving average (200 DMA) reaching its ATH (All-Time High) of $57,000. Michael Saylor, CEO of MicroStrategy, is also optimistic. In his latest message, he urged investors to "run with the bulls." (It should be noted here that MicroStrategy holds 205,000 BTC on its balance sheet, so Saylor's bullish calls are quite understandable. He simply has to do this for his company to profit rather than incur losses).   However, analysts note that bitcoin's fate depends not only on the rosy calls of the MicroStrategy CEO. And if buyer support weakens, BTC could break through the key support level of $61,000, falling to the $56,000 zone, where significant liquidity is concentrated. MN Trading founder Michael Van De Poppe does not rule out another correction to around $55,000. However, the specialist quickly reassures investors, stating that this is quite acceptable as long as bitcoin holds above $60,000. Anthony Pompliano believes that the price will not fall below $50,000, and another expert, Alan Santana, does not rule out a drop to $30,000.   Trader and analyst Rekt Capital believes that the first cryptocurrency has exited the post-halving "danger zone" and entered the initial phase of re-accumulation. According to this expert, in 2016, BTC demonstrated a long red candle after the halving, falling by 17%. This time, the pattern repeated, with the difference between the post-halving maximum and minimum being 16%. The price reached a local bottom at around $56,566 but then rose to $65,508, on which Rekt Capital concluded that it re-entered the "re-accumulation range." However, there is one "but" - after this, we again observed a drop to $60,175. Overall, it seems that BTC/USD is in a descending channel, which increases investor concern.   In general, the forecasts are quite diverse. Information on the activity of various categories of traders and investors also varies. Analyst and CMCC Crest co-founder Willy Woo noted the activity of so-called crypto dolphins and sharks. "There has never been such a rapid purchase of coins by wealthy holders as in the last two months when the price fluctuated between $60,000-70,000. We are talking about those who hold from 100 BTC to 1000 BTC or approximately $6.5-65 million," he explained. On the other hand, according to CryptoQuant analysts, whales holding from 1000 to 10000 BTC, unlike dolphins and sharks, have behaved quite passively. Michael Van De Poppe, for his part, notes the absence of retail investors.   All this suggests that we may not see new all-time highs for BTC in the coming months. We wrote about this in the previous review, citing, among other things, the opinion of such a Wall Street legend as Factor LLC head Peter Brandt. With a 25% probability, he assumed that bitcoin had already formed another ATH within the current cycle. As for long-term forecasts, nothing has changed here - most of them predict a powerful bull rally for bitcoin. Anthony Pompliano writes about this. Willy Woo expects bitcoin to continue increasing its penetration into various spheres of everyday life, meaning the number of users will grow. "By 2035, we expect bitcoin's fair value to reach $1 million. This forecast is based on the user growth curve. And I'm talking about fair value, not a peak during a bull market frenzy," the analyst notes.   The author of the bestseller "Rich Dad Poor Dad," entrepreneur Robert Kiyosaki, once again included bitcoin in the TOP-3 ways to save and increase capital. "Bad news: the [currency market] crash has already begun. It will be severe. Good news: a crash is the best time to get rich," he wrote, offering several recommendations on how to act in a crisis. Let's note two of them. The first reads: "Find an additional source of income. Artificial Intelligence will destroy millions of jobs. Start a small business and become an entrepreneur, not an employee afraid of losing a job." "Don't hoard fake money (US dollar, euro, yen, peso) that is losing value. Hoard gold, silver, and bitcoin - real money whose value increases, especially in a market crash," is Kiyosaki's second recommendation.   Regarding bitcoin's growth, Kiyosaki is absolutely right; it's even pointless to argue. According to a study by Colin Wu, better known as WuBlockchain, over the past decade, the price of the leading cryptocurrency has grown by an astonishing 12,464%, outpacing giants like Amazon, Apple, Google, Meta, Tesla, and Netflix. BTC was second only to Nvidia (+17,797%). But the fact that bitcoin took second place, being a representative of a relatively new and volatile market, is a real achievement. BTC's impressive growth trajectory over the past decade demonstrates its resilience and potential as an essential component in investors' portfolios.   At the time of writing this review, on the evening of Friday, 10 May, the BTC/USD pair is trading at $60,470. The total market capitalization of the crypto market is $2.24 trillion ($2.33 trillion a week ago). The Crypto Fear & Greed Index has risen from the Neutral zone (48 points a week ago) to the Greed zone, now standing at 66 points. NordFX Analytical Group   Notice: These materials are not investment recommendations or guidelines for working in financial markets and are intended for informational purposes only. Trading in financial markets is risky and can result in a complete loss of deposited funds.   #eurusd #gbpusd #usdjpy #btcusd #ethusd #ltcusd #xrpusd #forex #forex_example #signals #cryptocurrencies #bitcoin #stock_market   https://nordfx.com/ 
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