What do we think of S2F models?

[Shaza Ahmad 1682]

Well, I think Bitcoin is well supported by investor confidence and there is nothing else to support it. If we look at the cryptocurrency world, we might find many cryptocurrencies that have advantages over Bitcoin, but what is their value? Often it has no value or its value is small, so Bitcoin is supported not because of its characteristics or features, but rather because whales and large investors trust Bitcoin and not any other cryptocurrency.

[Sykkuno 2887]

I think that this model used by the 100trillionUsd person needs more explanation. Models are not dots in a chart made by a marker. They have an equation behind them and logarithms. If someone thinks that it is like drawing this is what a 5 year old kid can do.

[Fixfin 2569]

Stock to flow model looks to be in line with earlier models that I've read about. It is not that this guy made something, he copied work of others and added some explanation that is probably not valid 100%. He explains a pattern that is mathematical but he has no math in it and this makes him look not convincing.

[annayks 2314]

It is not valid we don't need to listen to charlatans and this guys is one of them. He made a bad chart and he is trying to convince he is a prophet. It doesn't work like that. Bitcoin price will rise but this chart he made is worthless and anyone can make better.

[percare 3192]

On 4/11/2020 at 11:30 AM, johant123 said:

Are the S2F models advocates right?

I don't think it is right, the model looks very difficult to process. It has the halving as the reason for price rising. But this is programmed already. Since we know that the supply is fixed and that the difficulty rises along with more hash rate why are these factors not priced in already? I think the were priced in when Bitcoin reached 20k and probably above this price it will need correction. I think that Bitcoin can reach 50k and then drop back to 20k again  or lower and we can rebuy perhaps at 10k again. This for 2021. But nothing to do with s2f.

[Cryptomint 433]

I don't know about that and one more thing is that no one can predict correctly about that because we know that is not an easy thing.

[Mella 3680]

I am agree the demand is what make the price rise and I am see the demand to be on the speculative side and not on the adoption side for Bitcoin. But it is found a good way to promote it making it a store of value that is a currency people in countries that have problem with the currency they can use Bitcoin instead. Only the supply is not matter you are right.

[zhoutong 2188]

The stock to flow model is not valid in my opinion. Some unonymous trader put a pattern he found used in stocks and is trying to convince everyone that this is it and nothing else. Yet he didn't accept a bet of a million that was put on the table that his chart will fail.

[Hamza 2.2 631]

With respect to the value, it is taken and decided by the proportion of the buy and deal demand for the cash and the market estimation of the money, the digital currencies are viewed as autonomous and nobody can control them.

[AL SHAIMON 1293]

I think both bitcoin and blockchain are important. This is true that bitcoin is based on blockchain technology and it work on the pair to pair model of blockchain. But many people already invested in bitcoin. So bitcoin is necessary. 

[cryptovlek 2597]

S2F is created with the idea that the supply alone is what it matters but it doesn't have any reasoning even when using simple economics, it is just saying that the new supply will be lower thus price will keep rising. The total supply is known to us it will be 21 million and the miners don't decide the price of Bitcoin, it is demand, if demand drops then miners will have to face lower prices and many could shut down operations. If demand drops even lower, miners will stop mining and the difficulty of the network will be dropped too so it will be easier to mine after some difficulty adjustments made. So the S2F means nothing since the production cost can go a lot lower if less production happens.

[Ahmad ah 1212]

I think s2f is a good method but it is not 100% reliable because we cannot predict what will happen in the future.
No one can absolutely control the price of digital currencies, it depends on the purchase and sale orders.
Supply and demand is the main controller of the prices of digital currencies.