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17 hours ago, Deig said:

 

 I don't completely agreeing with you because gold is about solid thing that you can touch, recycle it. It's really valuable material what I can not say about crypto. It's just a digital thing which still brings money. Sooner or later it will reborn in something we can touch. Maybe we will be able even to buy a bread in a nearest future, but crypto still zeros and ones

I agree with you. Gold is the oldest thing where until now we make it to keep value our money.

Gold have intrisic value where we can touch it and see it. So we can know what the different gold and other investment. Cryptocurrency and Gold have different world. Where cryptocurrency only can accessed by internet but different with Gold we can bring it with our hand. But i can see both can be as store of value.

On 10/15/2019 at 2:10 PM, duncun007 said:

Ever since the financial crisis 2008 people became aware that their money isnt safe at banks and so are their investments, bitcoin emerged as a savior and an alternative that might eventually replace banks, (fast-forward thru the parts where bitcoin price went from .01$ to 20k)  I've heard too many mainstream economists saying bitcoin isnt going to last and no sane government would accept it because simply we dont know who controls it.

my question is in this ongoing war between bitcoin and banks who is going to win and why?

 

I still thinking there is no war behind Bitcoin and Banks.

Because we can see the cryptocurrency is only alternative currency and payment system beside bank. So both have good side and bad side. In the bank we think safe to saving our money, but the actually they only save the digit on the server, so when the hacker hack their server, there is will massively be problem. Different with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, where we safe also digit but in nowhere, where the security to validate the coin inside is worldwide.

We need make cryptocurrency to become hard cash in the bank. So i think bank still needed, but for safety maybe some people will moving their money to cryptocurrency.

On 12/24/2019 at 1:50 PM, Cryptonit said:

No! It will only increase in the coming times. Due to its popularity and value, bitcoins have a great field. But currently due to the lesser demands, the price is falling. But it will increase.

Wew you so confident to predict the price Bitcoin will only increase in the next year.

Yes... Bitcoin time by time will get popular. Because the adoption of Bitcoin to worldwide will never stop.

Also for the demand this year also yes still less than 2018.

But you need know next year many home miner going closed their project, because due high difficulty of Bitcoin. So Bitcoin still have a chance to going down in price.

On 12/23/2019 at 12:28 PM, mrking049 said:

Many people don't have enough patience to hold long as most people want easy money that's fast too. That's why some people think long term is bad. Price will increase or decrease no one knows of future that's why Many people are thinking .Holding long term cryptocurrency is bad.

Holding some cryptocurrency without knowledge i see also the reason.

Where i see people just buy a coin, for example Bitcoin. They never learn what is Bitcoin and why they invest on Bitcoin. They only think Bitcoin will going up forever, where the reality that is not possible.

Because naturally all cryptocurrency is moving by supply and demand. So when they see the price always going down they only think to get out as soon as possible.

Yes that is already coin create that guarantee. Every their coin backed with pure gold bars. I already see the proof and that is right. That is interesting.

But i just thinking again...

Gold bar is created for save value of our money, so how the token determine the prices? If using trading, the price will really volatile.

Also what purpose i buy that coin?

If i can buy real gold bar, why i need buy digital number coin where maybe their gold will taken away. With buying gold bar by ourself, we can hold the physical gold and more easy to sell.

I think yes that is not profitable, especially if you use your phone.

We can see on home miner also not profitable. They use ASIC miner but due high difficulty and high competition with company. They will still losing money everyday for mining. Because not only because their mining hardware is outdated but the company now is really hard to add their mining power with the newest ASIC miner.

In my opinion the mining project is really going hard every year.

So not only 2019, but next year 2020.

All home miner i predict will going bankrupt and they will selling all their miner hardware. Because i already see my friend failed to survive his mining farm, also youtuber who running mining rig also bankrupt and now he working on Walmart. Mining now will managed by company, that is happen because they always increase the mining power and want capitalize the crypto mining world.

We only need profit to life. So i recommended you to learn trading than mining. With trading you don't need many capital and confused about hardware.

Mining now is moving to corporate business. So all mining power will be managed by company. The home miner now will going bankrupt. So from that if you choose cloud mining, i think hard to find real cloud mining, especially profitable.

I think real investor is tired about ICO. The inside some ICO project is only fake project, they create product where never used and fake person listed on the site.

The investor now i see move to real coin.

I mean coin where have their blockchain rather than depending on Ethereum Blockchain. Where atleast the coin have real vision and mission.

17 minutes ago, teminalibug said:

oh! so you basically an addict like me, I'm trying so hard to avoid gambling and stick to trading, but I see you are enjoying yourself , good.

Yes like i say first i think we same condition. I just laughing when read your thread... oh really i have a friend who addicted like me 😂

I don't know if i don't gambling my life is like empty, not doing anything.

Gambling is bad and risk games. So when i know i addicted about gambling i trying to avoid it. But that is hard. I always finally transfer my real money to deposit on gambling sites. 

My strategy now is to minimize to gambling. So i just collect free money from internet, like faucet or any giveaway. I use it to trading. But when i think i need to gambling i move some money (not all) from trading to gambling.

I just feel good when play gambling no matter the result win or lose. Really weird. 😅

Yes the strategy buy low and sell high is common strategy. But if you want only gain profit. I think that is hard because you can't predict too acurate how many price is the lowest today and when you can sell your coin. I prefer buy some coin, maybe maximum around 3 coin.

I only buy undervalued coin. So when the price going up i can sell it. But the often condition is 1-2 coin price is going down again. But we can see if 1 coin going up and can cover the lose from 2 coin, i will sell all, especially if get some profit.

18 minutes ago, teminalibug said:

So right now are you doing both trading and gambling or you quit gambling and now you only trade.?

Actually i doing both.

So the first i trading cryptocurrency. If i see the coin i buy can't get supported to going up in several day, i will move it to gambling site. Yeah just have a fun, if profit i can cover my loss from trading.

But if lose yeah just not lucky lol.

I don't know that is good to apply in any situation. Because sometimes we already buy the coin when the price going down. But the coin prices still going down and also the market don't allow the prices going up so the price stuck there. For us that is bad condition, if we hold for long time maybe can be useless.

So for me the situation when price going up we can still buy it. That is good for short time trading. So we don't need waiting long time to gain profit. But please research first, because not all coin is fit that condition.

40 minutes ago, Frozen Kingdom said:

I love crypto related news,forum and any kind of crypto related articles. Since my online journey I want to learn about forex trading. So is there any easy and shortcut way to learn forex trading quickly.

The only way to learn forex trading faster is doing practice with demo account. First you can learn about leverage, lot, stop loss, take profit, signal, etc. You can find the article in google to learn about basic thing like that. After that go to register on broker. I prefer use instaforex. Then you install MT4 and open demo account. If you still blind how it work just click anything you curious. That is will make some mistake but don't worry you don't lose anything and you still learning.

After you already enough to learn it, you can go to real account and deposit some money.

On 10/7/2019 at 7:11 PM, teminalibug said:

I hear stories some of them right here on cryptotalk, its like Trading is to risky

I remember back when I was living with my parents, I used to tell them that i was trading but i was actually gambling on dice sites.. LMAO. I tried to trade sometimes without knowing what i was doing, did few orders and I was like damn! this thing is scarier and complicated than gambling pss! so i kept gambling and everyone believed that i was trading, was good at it though, Gambling i mean until i quit

Now every time i have enough money to start Trading i get scared!

How do you guys do it, and how do i get started? like you i mean from a total NOOB that i am + is it really scary like i think?

I ever doing like you. Say to my parents say i doing trading please don't disturb me. But actually i playing games, especially gambling in dice games. Lol.

Yes i also scary at first time. But i always remember how i playing gambling first. I am using free money from faucet or giveaway for gambling and losing it no time. So i also try to doing it same in trading. With that strategy actually i am not losing anything, but if i success gain profit my bitcoin is growing than before.

That is right, your emotions is often kill you when trading. Not only on cryptocurrency but in stock and forex also same.

If you do in forex always learn first on demo account. Then going to real account with small balance. Every profit you must take it don't be greedy.

If in cryptocurrency, no any demo account. But for safety you can try trading with Bitcoin you get from free source like faucet and this forum.

The best thing i will see Bitcoin price will skyrocket. Bitcoin will be the most profitable currency in the world. That is happen if company and country adopt Bitcoin in their financial system. The demand of Bitcoin will so high, but the supply is really limited. Bitcoin can't duplicated, so for the seller that is big advantage they can sell it really expensive.

I still see the chance Bitcoin price this month going down to $6,000.

Many people going holiday so people just sell it for a while to get some hard cash. Maybe next year the price will going up to normal $8,000. That is possible because we are near Bitcoin halving. So prepare first this month with buying cheap Bitcoin, so we can get some profit in the future.

My cheapest price when i buying Bitcoin is around $300. That is around 2013.

I just buy it when the price is still cheap, but not really cheap that time. Because i only have small money in my pocket but decide to buying Bitcoin, where my reason to buy it because i see unique payment system in Bitcoin. I believe this is will good in next year. And i am lucky the price always growing every year. Then stuck for now in around $7,200

My expectation about Bitcoin price in the end of year 2019 is around $6,000.

My reason is because this month still many holiday. So for people who need hard cash, they prefer to selling some their cryptocurrency than take a loan or using their salary. We can see today price Bitcoin is around $7,300 that is near my prediction. If that happen i sure will buy some Bitcoin.

36 minutes ago, haulakers01 said:

yes gambling was very addictive they will give small win at the first to make you believe that you will get rich on gamble oand then you lose everything until you stop

Nah for beginner gambler i think have wrong mindset about gambling. They think gambling is the only way to become rich in short time. I just give advice to all people, to become rich you can't get it on short time also in one night. Because rich people is diligent what they do. All rich people is come from business, gambling is business, but only the owner can rich.

22 hours ago, haulakers01 said:

indeed freebitcoin roll just scam, i lost a lot of bitcoin on that, they let you win in the beginning and then you will lose everything

What you mean scam? Freebitcoin always pay their user. The gambling is naturally have 2 side, win and lose.

I already research freebitcoin site and that site is true using provably fair.

If you don't know what is provably fair is they using psuedo random number to determine next rolling result. So they don't have a chance to cheat you, because the dice is really random and we and they don't know the result created by computer. Maybe you greedy. I am also same lose some Bitcoin there, so for now i use it as my faucet only.

I never try all mobile wallet on the thread. I currently only use Coinomi. For me that is already enough to save my coin for the future. I can edit my fees so when i need send my coin with less fees i can do it.

Also coinomi support erc20 anything token based ETH blockchain we can use the wallet, if the token not found you can input it manually. That is i know about coinomi.

I think with trading is no way to make us rich. Because all rich people is doing business to become rich. Trading maybe can make you rich if you open the exchanges. But if you trader that is hard to make us rich. I trading don't hope to someday i can rich, but prefer doing trading as side income. Where i think with trading we can do buy and sell in anywhere and anytime. Maybe sometimes we make mistake so our balance decreased, don't worry that is normal.

Yes basicly market moving because have supply and demand. When people need that coin, people will place an order to buy it, so demand created. In other hand who have that coin can sell the coin based price buyer or make their price itself. But for us as trader we play on 2 roles, buyer and seller in short time. In cryptocurrency we can hold it for long time. And also the market in cryptocurrency don't have any limit price, because that market crypto is volatile.