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The latest drop in Bitcoin's price is  said to have been caused after Twitter account that traces whale movements @whalealert, tweeted about 40 Bitcoins been moved from a wallet that it might be associated with Satoshi.

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These Bitcoins were mined in February 2009 and haven't been moved since. 

Here is the link to the transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cb1440c787d8a46977886405a34da89939e1b04907f567bf182ef27ce53a8d71

 

There was controversy on the Wallet being one of the early Satoshi wallets as Craig Wright had also claimed the address being his, as he is claiming  to be Satoshi, and provided this evidence to a court along with thousand other addresses. Still Craig Wright responded that it wasn't him that moved the Bitcoins, but perhaps someone from Kleinman's surroundings had access to the private keys. Adam Back also went to tweet that the wallet was not Satoshi's.

 

A Coindesk columnist, Nick Carter, tweeted the chart bellow which points to the block that contains the coinbase transaction. This block seems to have been mined by someone besides Satoshi according to him and many researchers.

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Satoshi did send the software to the cryptographers mailing list since the end of 2008 and after two months there were many of them that had begun mining Bitcoin, so we cannot safely say who's Bitcoins are these. Still this can be considered a test to the possible effects in the market, a bigger move of Bitcoins from early addresses would have.

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Whomever it was, it was either already very rich guy or someone who found his old wallet. I mean who in his right mind would have hodled 11 years. I would go for latter since someone could have easily have lost something that hadn't any value at all in 2009.

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This is really a large amount of this long period of time why all this waiting for the transfer of this transaction is why the owner has not moved in 2017 when the price was high there seems to be something that is the concept of this transaction can change the price Alpetkoan because it s a huge amount

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I don't  know what to say. Because a mentally stable guy don't have the patience to hold some coins for almost 11 years. Maybe the guy found someone else's  wallet and pin to enter and then he transferred the money or currency to his own account. Because if he knew about this then he would have done this before. No one is able  to hold for that much longer i assume. So there is something fishy i guess. 

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I wanted to create a topic about it but you were faster. You made a really quality topic for us!

 

I also noticed this transaction and I also believe it caused the recent dump. The address mined 50 Bitcoins from one confirmed block and then sent all the funds to a different address 3 days ago. The address received the reward at the block https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block/3654, which means it could be one of the early miners, as well as Satoshi himself. Since the address didn't receive any other transactions before it sent the funds, I think in case it was an early miner, he might've forgotten about this wallet and found it today, or someone could hack the wallet after it was lost. 

 

Another interesting fact is that the transaction had two outputs, split to 40 and 10 BTC. The second, smaller output is already spent. That means the address that received the funds already sent them to someone else. 


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17 hours ago, Saj555 said:

I don't  know what to say. Because a mentally stable guy don't have the patience to hold some coins for almost 11 years. Maybe the guy found someone else's  wallet and pin to enter and then he transferred the money or currency to his own account. Because if he knew about this then he would have done this before. No one is able  to hold for that much longer i assume. So there is something fishy i guess. 

I completely agree. It is impossible not to sell for 10 years and also not probable to find some missing keys. There are people saying that perhaps someone was in jail for some reason all these years and just came out. I don't know what to say though. Perhaps it is planned from some major whale that holds tens of thousand of coins wanting to test the reaction in case he was going to move old bitcoins.

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i was thinking about this... since all the famous early bitcoin adopters denied this transaction i think this transaction was made by someone who found his lost private keys (most probably) or someone who was trying to restore his wallet with the seed but he typed the words with the wrong order and luckily he restored this wallet with 50 BTC (this one is an almost impossible scenario, but can happen)

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Yes my friend, most experts say that this is not a Satoshi wallet even though there are those who say that this wallet is for Satoshi, strangely enough is these movements at this time and there were recently large movements of whales and the collection of bitcoin by the whales. There appears to be many things behind the movements of the whales.

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Even though all these early holders of bitcoin are denying the transaction, I still believe the case is one of them is still behind this, probably he might not be even testing the market reaction (for me, this is likely the case). If not I will go with the scerenio of someone just have access to his private keys or someone's and he decided to take them somewhere else. Everything is a speculation though.

 

 


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It is quite normal for this person to transfer this large amount of bitcoin because this long period cannot be expected and if I were in his place I would have done the same and some mystery still surrounds this transaction and details are not fully present

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2 hours ago, Raqeebzy said:

Even though all these early holders of bitcoin are denying the transaction, I still believe the case is one of them is still behind this, probably he might not be even testing the market reaction (for me, this is likely the case). If not I will go with the scerenio of someone just have access to his private keys or someone's and he decided to take them somewhere else. Everything is a speculation though.

The timing was suspicious as well. It was right when Bitcoin was retesting 10K and personally I though it was almost certain to break. Perhaps this was the intention, to make people scared and dump. After that many fud news appeared all together.

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I am not sure about that, but I think this won't be good for the market if these Bitcoins are sold. The price of Bitcoin would drop very low if this happens!

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This is surprising! 40 BTC is a very large amount, i also think that wallet may be for Satoshi Nakamoto or maybe for other person who is very rich, transfer all that amount in a single transaction i think its very risk.

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18 hours ago, Sentry said:

I've saw this news on some article and also in the forum. They're saying that it is one of Satoshi Nakamoto's sleeper wallets and they have some theory about it. But I think that it is not Satoshi Nakamoto, I figured that if it's really Nakamoto's wallet, then I think it should have more than balance. And oh, on the articles/threads that I've read, they're saying that the balance is 50 Bitcoin.

Actually Satoshi and other miners were using various wallets, they didn't just mine in one of them all the Bitcoins. The transaction was  50 bitcoins, because the wallet contained 50 Bitcoins.

But the Bitcoins moved were 40, the rest is what is left minus the fees. 

 

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This is happening even after few days or weeks because big whales done to steal the funds of small investors who using leverage trading because when we takes high leverage then our accounts liquidated and funds losses by us so try to used low leverage .

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The period of putting this large amount of currency in a steady state is very long and frankly I am very impressed with this person and the patience that he possesses but there are two possibilities the first is that this person was missing the entry information for his portfolio and found it after several years and the second possibility is that this person is very smart and patient and I think that Transferring this large amount will have a noticeable effect on the currency rates

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This guy of The Craig which list think is just an impersonator of the real and original Satoshi nakamoto, has just being in floating planes if his actually a the real or the fake nakamoto. But on that if the 40 BTC I just think it's unknown to know was the owner there

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On 5/27/2020 at 6:19 PM, jamesvince said:

This is happening even after few days or weeks because big whales done to steal the funds of small investors who using leverage trading because when we takes high leverage then our accounts liquidated and funds losses by us so try to used low leverage .

Perhaps you are right. There were millions of profits for Bitmex (and perhaps other platforms as well) with all the liquidations that followed. This is a big concern and someday Bitmex will have to answer for all their practices.

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14 hours ago, Upright said:

But on that if the 40 BTC I just think it's unknown to know was the owner there

@Upright Was it 40 btc or 50 btc?  According to the news I read it was 50 btc. Can you please make this clear. 

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yea I also see a video about it on YouTube , this is really good to see that some people store a good amount of bitcoin as a long-term investment .

now 40 bitcoin value having a good prices in Market .

there is still higher chance that this coin is not of Satoshi nakamoto because this coin is minned or purchase on 2nd block .


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On 5/23/2020 at 4:01 AM, Saj555 said:

I don't  know what to say. Because a mentally stable guy don't have the patience to hold some coins for almost 11 years. Maybe the guy found someone else's  wallet and pin to enter and then he transferred the money or currency to his own account. Because if he knew about this then he would have done this before. No one is able  to hold for that much longer i assume. So there is something fishy i guess. 

Well bro I think your opinion also reasonable because 11 years hold any coin its not possible, because in 2017 we see bitcoin hit around 20000$ dollars, means its bitcoin highest prices then why not sell 40 bitcoins, why now this bitcoin move in another account its suspected because its not small amount.

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On 5/31/2020 at 11:52 AM, Honny143 said:

Well bro I think your opinion also reasonable because 11 years hold any coin its not possible, because in 2017 we see bitcoin hit around 20000$ dollars, means its bitcoin highest prices then why not sell 40 bitcoins, why now this bitcoin move in another account its suspected because its not small amount.

The early miners from 2009-2010 didn't just have 40 coins but they mined many thousands. They don't mine them in the same address, but use a different one on each coinbase. So while they might have sold most of their Bitcoins, they still hodl and own probably thousands in many old wallets. This person probably moved the Bitcoins because he either wanted to test the reaction of the market, or he finished selling with his latest Bitcoins and begun now spending his early ones.

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This is really strange, how can anyone keep a very large amount of 40 Bitcoins for 10 years and did not sell, especially in 2017 when the price of Bitcoin reached $ 20,000, either this person is a crypto whale and has a large amount of Bitcoin or That the private key to his wallet was lost and then he found it according to my opinion

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I think he was one of shoshi friend who was with him in creating all this system. One thing about this transaction is amazing that it was so old bitcoin when it's price was not a single dollar and now the price of these bitcoins are million dollars. 

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